Cherokee Phoenix


Published July, 20, 1833

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Mr. Hicks:- Sometime ago I called at the house of a Cherokee, where I heard a dialogue between a Georgian 'land hunter' and a Pennsylvanian. I send you the substance of it, as a specimen of the many sage things of the same kind, which I have often heard since the 'fortunate drawers' have come among us, like the locusts upon Egypt.

Pennsylvanian: Have you drawn a good lot of land?

Georgian. No! not very. A great deal of the land is mighty poor.

Pa. The Cherokees appear to be content with it. Is it not a pity to take it from them?

Ga. Yes! I allow Georgia should have paid the Cherokees for it before she touched it. But there is a great deal of powerful worthless land in the Nation.

Pa. The poorness of the land does not justify Georgia in taking it. I once heard a preacher say that the man who steals a shilling, is meaner than he who steals a thousand dollars, for he sins with less temptation.

Ga. Oh! but Georgia does not steal the land. It belongs to her.

Pa. When did it become hers?

Ga. Why, don't you know the United States promised it to her?

Pa. Did it ever belong to the United States?

Ga. Why, if they buy it it will.

Pa. True, but they have not bought. They have never given it to Georgia, nor could they give what does not belong to them.

Ga. But did not the General Government say that Georgia should have the country?

Pa. Yes. So soon as it could be purchased fairly from the Indians, but that time has not yet come.

Ga. But does not all this country belong to the United States?

Pa. Surely not. If it already belongs to them why are they continually urging the Cherokees to sell it to them? If I were to settle upon these lands, I would think that every stalk of corn that I raised would call me a robber.

Ga. Georgia does not take the lots upon which the Indians are settled. Every Cherokee holds his improvements.

Pa. So, if you have two horses it would be right for me to steal one of them, because forsooth, you do not ride two at the same time! Occupy all the unoccupied lands, and where will the stock range, and where will the new families formed by marriages among the young Cherokees live?

Ga. Why, that is their own look out.

Pa. The whole transaction is infamous and so you will see it at the day of judgment.

Ga. I told you at the first, that I did not approve of what Georgia has done. Don't (sic) that satisfy you? You still keep edging down upon me.

Pa. If you disapprove why do you partake?

Ga. I may as well have some of the lands as others.

Pa. So any robber might say, here is a traveller that will be robbed at any rate, I may as well have some of the money as others. But how are the missionaries that you imprisoned coming on?

Ga. They are out.

Pa. Why were they in?

Ga. Because they would not take the oath of allegiance to Georgia.

Pa. Why was such an oath required.

Ga. It is required of all persons coming into Georgia, from any other states.

Pa. You mistake, the law requiring it,was probably made with direct reference to the ministers and teachers among the Cherokees.

Ga. But they were making all the money they could off the heathen.

Pa. And was it the business of Georgia to prevent that? But I think your assertion is not correct-here is a Cherokee girl that has been at school; let us ask her; Eliza, were you not two or three years in Dr. Butler's school

Eliza. Yes, longer than that.

Pa. Did they ever require any money of you?

Eliza. No, Sir.

Pa. How did the missionaries get out?

Ga. They petitioned the Governor, and took the oath of allegiance.

Pa. Here is Dr. Butler, one of them, he can tell us.

Dr. B. We did not petition the Governor; we made no acknowledgement; we took no oath; we would have died rather than have taken the oath of allegiance to Georgia.

Ga. Well, I was told so. How far do you call it to Ridges?


Cherokee Nation, May 10th 1833.




A few evening ago, a stranger arrived at Hickory Log, about half a mile from Cherokee court house, a little village inhabited by Georgian intruders. While preaching in the house of a Cherokee, six men came in, and set (sic) with their hats on, 'till after the service, and then calling him out, entered into the following conversation.

We have a little business with you.

Stranger. What are your names gentlemen?

They. Mine is John Daniel, mine is Key. Here are Mr. Cox and Mr. Brock.

Daniel. We are sent to arrest you.

Stranger. Who sent you?

Daniel. Col. Williamson, commander of the Guard?

Key. I have no ill will against you under the heavens, but was offered twenty dollars to be excused. I was just about to start to Macon.

Stranger. What is my offence.

Daniel. By what authority do you preach to the Indians.

Stranger. I am authorized to preach, and have as much right as other ministers to preach to Cherokees.

Daniel. Have you taken the oath of allegiance?

Stranger. The law that required that oath has been rescinded, ' where there is no law there is no transgression.

Key. Will you go with any persons that have authority to take you?

Stranger. Yes, but I know no such authority can be produced.

Some of them withdrew for consultation, and the stranger walked into the house, and sat with composure 'till they returned. After making many foolish ' impertinent remarks, ' ascertaining that they could not alarm, they retired. It is due to state, that not more than one half of them were drunk or profane, and only one was so very drunk that he fell in the water. If any stranger delights in courtesy, let him visit Cherokee Court House. Such attentions to strangers greatly increase the confidence of the Cherokees in their friendship.




What has become of the Pony Club? asked a Georgian the other evening. 'I believe,' replied a gentleman living in the nation, 'some of them have been selected Judges of the Inferior Courts in these new counties; one was whipped just before his election.'